menre was genuinely such a cool concept i coined, i’m kinda sad i didn’t do more with it
like yeah it’s extremely hard to explain what it means but a lot of my terms are like that. it’s my whimsical nature
a while back i desperately tried to reinvent the menre so i get the hard to explain thing. i was talking to someone and was like “yea im genderfluid but i only experience genders on the gender plane” and they were like “what”. and it turns out i had assumed that everyone was experiencing menres except me and i could Not get the point across
i might go back to talking about it. i don’t know for sure if i experience menre identity myself, but it would be useful considering how many stories i have that deal with nonhuman characters and identity
this includes maybe making a secondary name. i’m thinking of having “genus” be the starting point, since it is one of the very old words in latin that eventually evolved into genre and then gender, but before it was associated with gender itself. so “gender” and the new term would both have a similar root in a word that means “kind,” but they branch into two separate terms and concepts, which i think makes sense for what menre is trying to get across :3
menre was genuinely such a cool concept i coined, i’m kinda sad i didn’t do more with it
like yeah it’s extremely hard to explain what it means but a lot of my terms are like that. it’s my whimsical nature
the best way i know how to explain it is like. imagine the multiverse is real. there’s universes outside of our own. and if you entered into that universe and found intelligent life, they might have their own social experience/identity that works in a similar sense to gender identity, or at least can be compared a bit on the surface, but it isn’t gender. it’s some unique thing of its own, with possible differences in how its conceptualized or explained. that separate identity / social construct would be a “menre.” it would also be a menre if, say, you had a nonhuman species who had their own social designations in a somewhat similar sense to gender, but is still separate from it and works as its own independent branch of identity. stuff like that. but obviously, considering how broad and frankly confusing the entire concept is, it could look like so much more than just this
it almost makes me think of xenogender’s original definition from 2014. if xenogender is “identity beyond human understanding of gender,” menre takes it a giant step further and says “well, if it’s so far beyond people’s typical understanding of gender, who’s to say it’s genderat all?”
menre was genuinely such a cool concept i coined, i’m kinda sad i didn’t do more with it
like yeah it’s extremely hard to explain what it means but a lot of my terms are like that. it’s my whimsical nature
the best way i know how to explain it is like. imagine the multiverse is real. there’s universes outside of our own. and if you entered into that universe and found intelligent life, they might have their own social experience/identity that works in a similar sense to gender identity, or at least can be compared a bit on the surface, but it isn’t gender. it’s some unique thing of its own, with possible differences in how its conceptualized or explained. that separate identity / social construct would be a “menre.” it would also be a menre if, say, you had a nonhuman species who had their own social designations in a somewhat similar sense to gender, but is still separate from it and works as its own independent branch of identity. stuff like that. but obviously, considering how broad and frankly confusing the entire concept is, it could look like so much more than just this
kenochoric was my 9/11 it got me to reread homestuck
this is truly a level of raw, astronomical Winning the likes of which i did not know i could harness. my power knows no limits. mr. president, a second Vriska
partly cuz, well, obviously it’s my own experience and being able to capture it the way i wanted to felt really good [not to mention how many other people it seemed to resonate with], but it also kickstarted a general trend of people making their own equally cool neogender umbrellas with a similar kinda vague/descriptive mentality behind it which was pretty awesome to see
Inviane: An umbrella for terms that can only be described by an image. There is no other description or describing the term besides the image itself.
Invi- is the prefix- Invigender refers to genders, inviallion refers to orientations, invidernic refers to aldernicity, and so on.
As there are so many images out there, many of which can be the same thing, naming inviane terms may be difficult. You do not need to make a specific term unless you want to; you’re welcome to just use inviane if you want. If you do coin your own, feel free to be creative or use whatever names you want. Furthermore, if you’re going to use multiple images, you can call it “mulviane.”
Inviane is not inherently part of things like xenogender, allion, etc., but it can be; it just depends on whatever the user personally describes it as, because it’s a very subjective experience. Please make sure you use image descriptions for the images you are using, so that disabled people may also use this term.
Example of an invigender:
Invinepgender: A gender that can only be described by this image:
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[ PT: Inviane: An umbrella for terms that can only be described by an image. There is no other description or describing the term besides the image itself. /End PT ]
[ ID: a photo of a glowing planet with a ring around it in the dark void. /End ID ]
also i’m just gonna coin it now. binaryweird is when your relationship with the gender binary is weird. you don’t have to be off the binary, you just have to be weird <3 do you get me
I get you asf. Made a flag. This is identity is valid and cool.
wait what the fuck i love this flag?????? hello???
In the MOGAI community, there’s been the concept of nonbinary, then abinary, then all the way to xenogenders and beyond. The limit of how far a gender can go is very wide. But it got me thinking… what if some people’s identities are somewhat adjacent to where a gender would be, but isn’t a gender at all?
Some people might identify as nonhuman (otherkin, system members, and whatnot) and have a system of identity that doesn’t fit “gender,” some might just not fit any kind of notion for gender, and some might feel as though what they experience is completely broken outside of the very concept for what a gender is. There’s countless experiences just like these! For whatever the reason, that’s why the word “menre,” or just genre, is being coined as a concept.
A menre can be like a gender, in that it is an internal identity that may or may not reflect how one wants to present, interact in social situations, or just find most suitable for defining themselves, but is partially or fully outside of the notion of “gender” itself. It is not gender, it is menre. Some menres can be parallel or adjacent to gender, and some might be partly connected to gender, while others may be so utterly disconnected that they have nothing to do with each other.
Menre is an intentionally broad concept, and can have countless iterations, variations, sublabels, and experiences under it. Menre itself is not equivalent to the term “gender,” but its subterms are. Instead, mnre is the umbrella in which all of these non-gender subterms are grouped under. Not only can there be a million umbrella labels for specific menre experiences, but those labels themselves can be just as vast and countless as the term “gender” is, with all of its variations and sublabels. To put it another way, any menre variation has the capability to have just as many sublabels as there are gender identities.
To be clear, menre is not creating a binary dichotomy between gender and not-gender; menre is more comparable to how “nonbinary” partly or fully goes outside of the constraints of the gender binary. “Gender” in this instance is the “binary,” and menre is everything outside of that specific label.
“Menre” comes from the latin mens meaning “mind,” as well as the word genre, which roughly means class, type, or style. So, roughly, “menre” means “mind’s style.” I made sure that genre itself could be another word for this experience, since people might find that more accurate. Menre would be pronounced “mehn-rah,” like the word “men” and the end of “genre” combined together.
Here’s a visual representation:
So essentially, with menre in the mix, gender is just one sphere in a huge sea of similar identity frameworks. All of those “bubbles” have their own subterms. You’ll also notice that some look very similar to the gender “bubble,” while some are very different looking. Obviously this is a very simplified graph, since not everything is going to be a cut-off bubble and all have the same “shape,” (many menres are so far different from gender that they can’t even be compared) so don’t take this literally. It’s mostly just to show how menre is different from gender.
i remember back before i left the mogai community i had the most petty but realest pet peeve ever, which was the amount of people who would make inviane terms [which are described as only being able to be portrayed through an image, no description or definition besides the image itself!] and add descriptions or stuff like “may be connected to x, y, and z” like no!!! the whole point is it is ONLY the image. smdh you had one job [i say this lightheartedly. i am not Genuinely angry about this]
like someone’d coin one and be like “may be connected to these aesthetics or ideals” aha, but you see, you have been tricked! for images [and terminology let’s be honest] are all interpretive in nature, and you are unfortunately and unintentionally pushing your own biased interpretation of what you think the image means onto the term, thus muddying the entire point of an identity that can only be conveyed through an inherently interpretive medium [images]! you fool! you rapscallion! 10,000 years of darkness!!!
i remember back before i left the mogai community i had the most petty but realest pet peeve ever, which was the amount of people who would make inviane terms [which are described as only being able to be portrayed through an image, no description or definition besides the image itself!] and add descriptions or stuff like “may be connected to x, y, and z” like no!!! the whole point is it is ONLY the image. smdh you had one job [i say this lightheartedly. i am not Genuinely angry about this]
i wonder if i could define my own kenosity as feeling similar to the things that both scare and fascinate me at the same time
i mean trying to pin any specific one or even set of things to being What Makes It What It Is will always inevitably feel wrong, but i do think it could be a part of it
SO glad to see youre still neocities posting, your posts on kenochoric about neocities like a few years ago now are what got me into it and its ruled 🗣️
OMG REALLY???? i’m so happy that my neocities rambling back in the day actually got people into it!!
I have a lot of trans girl/fem characters I realized (some of which I need to draw more) because I really do feel like transfem rep is deserving of cute girls and femmes critters especially if they have weight to them.
so i ended up going full “time to edit my neocities”
it’s not even close to done yet, but if you’re on desktop [or mobile, but it might look wonky or too big] check out the new archival page i have for alterhuman terms i made or made flags for, it looks sooooo nice compared to before
so i ended up going full “time to edit my neocities”
it’s not even close to done yet, but if you’re on desktop [or mobile, but it might look wonky or too big] check out the new archival page i have for alterhuman terms i made or made flags for, it looks sooooo nice compared to before
also while i’m on the train. hi. if you have a rentry or a carrd or whatever, consider neocities. it’s so awesome. html is hard and time-consuming for you in comparison to the ease of a rentry? no problem + understandable, i know how it can be + i’ve got you covered
check out sadgrls layout builder and all her other resources for the layout of the page [it looks good on mobile too, and everything within the code is labelled, so you know exactly where each element is], and html-online to convert rich text to html text, or alternatively markdowntohtml to convert markdown [what rentry uses] to html. just copy-paste the converted text into the relevant place in the layout code, and boom. you’re pretty much done aside from however much customization you want to do or not do. you can literally just stop there if you so choose
i promise you it doesn’t need to look perfect like all the sites on the homepage. it doesn’t matter, you can edit that shit little by little whenever you want. you can learn html in tiny little pieces so it becomes a little easier to edit your site over time, if you want. but crucially, you own that site. you can freely download and use that site and everything on it however you want. wanna self host it later? go ahead! it’s YOURS. it helps promote a more independent internet AND you get to have fun. make a neocites now
i mean hell you can even make it look just like a rentry. plain colored background + center the text and it looks very similar and simple/clean. also webrings are so fun if you’ve got friends who also have a neocities, you can all basically link your accounts together with arrows and have it loop around to all of your different sites
also while i’m on the train. hi. if you have a rentry or a carrd or whatever, consider neocities. it’s so awesome. html is hard and time-consuming for you in comparison to the ease of a rentry? no problem + understandable, i know how it can be + i’ve got you covered
check out sadgrls layout builder and all her other resources for the layout of the page [it looks good on mobile too, and everything within the code is labelled, so you know exactly where each element is], and html-online to convert rich text to html text, or alternatively markdowntohtml to convert markdown [what rentry uses] to html. just copy-paste the converted text into the relevant place in the layout code, and boom. you’re pretty much done aside from however much customization you want to do or not do. you can literally just stop there if you so choose
i promise you it doesn’t need to look perfect like all the sites on the homepage. it doesn’t matter, you can edit that shit little by little whenever you want. you can learn html in tiny little pieces so it becomes a little easier to edit your site over time, if you want. but crucially, you own that site. you can freely download and use that site and everything on it however you want. wanna self host it later? go ahead! it’s YOURS. it helps promote a more independent internet AND you get to have fun. make a neocites now
when i made my nonanthropy neocities i made a big helpful archive of terms i had made a few years back, i bet i could expand my neocities site with enough time and effort and make it work for both this blog and that blog. which means i could also archive and make new pages for queer/mogai terms i worked on too. might be a goal for later when i’m bored
like for instance, when i made amatopunk it had a pretty heavy focus on very specific groups of people, especially aspec people, to the point where i think people might have the impression that it’s specific to them or that side of the community. in reality i think just about anyone could be amatopunk, even someone who literally isn’t even lgbtq+. it’s queer, yeah, but more in the political sense than anything. it’s more a mentality or deconstruction of an oppressive institution that can affect pretty much anyone. like. literally just being A Woman or being Disabled or Not Being White etc. can drastically affect your viewpoint on amatonormantivity, because the patriarchy and ableism and white supremacy and all the other oppressive institutions inherently tie together and affect how relationships are viewed and your supposed place within them. this was not something i was very aware of [and even if i had been, i wouldn’t have had the right words to explain it] when i coined the term amatopunk like 4 years ago at the ripe age of 18 and didn’t even understand my own identity clearly yet. so having a page dedicated to talking more about it as someone much more politically active and well-worded would be cool
when i made my nonanthropy neocities i made a big helpful archive of terms i had made a few years back, i bet i could expand my neocities site with enough time and effort and make it work for both this blog and that blog. which means i could also archive and make new pages for queer/mogai terms i worked on too. might be a goal for later when i’m bored
i’ve been watching this minecraft youtuber for a little over a year now, and i watched her end up coming out in real-time after basically a full year of more and more obvious hints and egg jokes. the world is beautiful. throwback to when she created minecraft estrogen that made it so you could wavedash
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randomly making a pride flag out of nowhere after having 0 interest in it for years is just adhd doing what it has always been doing to me [pulling me into doing random shit]
Mesopelic: A gender identity that’s connected to the mesopelagic zone of the ocean in some way. It can be a literal connection, but it might also be more symbolic, such as being partly obscured or hidden away.
The mesopelagic zone is also called the “twilight zone” in more casual contexts, and makes up around 60% of the ocean. Only a tiny bit of light from the surface reaches it, hence the relation to twilight.
Created to parallel hadalic, which is connected to the hadal zone.
Hadalic: A gender that is related to the hadal zone of the ocean.
The Hadal Zone is the deepest, darkest part of the ocean, and is where the Challenger Deep resides. This gender may feel dark, deep, and oceanic. For some, it may feel endlessly vast, connected to bioluminescence, seawater, and darkness. On the contrary, it may feel narrow, full of ridges and trenches. Can often be hard to understand, incomprehensibly undiscovered, and unknown.
ok so to be clear when i posted those bec noir icons i did not in fact know about Vivziepop Homestuck Adaptation. noticed the tag was trending when i used it and wondered why
well i found out
like i think apollo must just hate me personally considering i just fully went through the entire comic, the epilogues, and all of beyond canon for the first time earlier this year. the timing can’t be a coincidence, some deity has gotta be really fucking mad at me
ok so to be clear when i posted those bec noir icons i did not in fact know about Vivziepop Homestuck Adaptation. noticed the tag was trending when i used it and wondered why
btw if you wonder why he hates lavender, it’s a irl mouse repellent
and the lil broken tail affects his balance which is another reason why he uses a cane. I’m sorry to infodump so much. he’s also fat because he recovered from trauma. he’s happy…
he’s also a GNC trans guy and black coded and loves his trans cat gf Hitomi (they are t4t) and often then not spoils her with love and treats because he has never received that care and neither has Hitomi.
starting to think romantic attraction is socially constructed in the same way that gender is. either that or im fully aro. which is possible. but also i feel all the feelings that alloromantic people describe (except the butterfly in stomach thing, but like i might just be too autistic to interpret that metaphor in the right way), i just dont see what makes it romantic. its literally just being anxious and obsessive about someone. ive been like that for friends, foes, family, literally every kind of platonic relationships ive had. im confused and tbh i think fully allo people arent confused enough about it.
Amatonormativity is embedded in every part of our culture, even our language. When asking if someone is dating, one may ask if there’s “something more,” or if you’re “more than just friends.” The phrase quite explicitly places friendship beneath romance, something less than.
that post about kenochoric has got me thinking about the fact that it’s just really obvious that not everyone views gender in the same framework and it causes a lot of mutual confusion and frustration from everyone
i think that is ok though. it’s normal in big communities of shared experiences for people to not have the same perspective. i love you autonomous gender umbrellas and i also love you xenogenders. we may not be the same exact experience, and we may not always understand everything about each other, but who gives a shit
ok so i napped. get ready for a lethe ramble [first on this blog. yay.]
so… “kenochoric” can’t really be defined, like how man and woman and whatever can’t be perfectly defined either. someone can give pointers for how it can feel, or things that remind them of it. things that are kenous, if you will. kinda like how someone can point at a frilly bow and say it looks feminine. but it doesn’t actually define what a woman is, because there’s no answer for that. you’ll notice that every time someone’s tried to reeeally pin down a prescriptive definition, it’s inevitably excluded some group of women out there from the definition. it does more harm than good trying to “figure out the secret” of what a gender identity really is. there’s no answer for most identity like that, because they’re social constructs that are defined through large numbers of people who have that experience. they can all tell you personal recounts of how it might feel for them, but that’s it. the person next to them might have a completely different experience, but they both still have it
yes, some terms have more concrete definitions. but that is because over time, the community using them has come to a general consensus on what the term broadly means. even then, there is dispute and there are outliers, and it leads to a ton of in-fighting. just look at the term “lesbian,” and how people have waged war over what pronouns you can use or if you can be nonbinary while using it, because what “lesbian” means is still ultimately defined through the people who have been using it, and what it means to them experience-wise
that’s part of why things like kenochoric and whatever are autonomous and kept self-contained, despite the existence of overlap. trying to pinpoint it or give it one, solid meaning, especially through a different label or experience, is a losing battle. it will never work for everyone, trying to make it that way only excludes people on accident. you might say it’s under this term. i’d ask why. you might say well, xyz definition of this other term means yours must fit, and i’d say “says who.” how does someone know everything that an experience contains, and the perfect umbrella terms to put them under. you don’t! nobody does. you’re talking to a person about a nebulous piece of their identity, not a dictionary whose job it is to make everything “make sense” in a way gender fundamentally doesn’t
do you get what i’m saying. get more descriptivist about identity and abandon rigid definitions today. for free
also yeah my icon is haruhi now. as you can imagine, i had a normal reaction to seeing a gnc girl fucking around with gender and kissing a girl on-screen when i was 10
that post about kenochoric has got me thinking about the fact that it’s just really obvious that not everyone views gender in the same framework and it causes a lot of mutual confusion and frustration from everyone
i think that is ok though. it’s normal in big communities of shared experiences for people to not have the same perspective. i love you autonomous gender umbrellas and i also love you xenogenders. we may not be the same exact experience, and we may not always understand everything about each other, but who gives a shit
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